Enter your email address to subscribe to The NOC and receive notifications of new posts by email. Korean version killed American version. [32], On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds an approval rating of 39% based on 151 reviews, with an average rating of 5.1/10. Dear (Lousy) Mother, First, don't be so quick to call yourself a lousy mother. The second major fail was the casting of Samuel L. Jackson in a role that was not right for him. Joe tortures Chaney into confessing that the Stranger arranged for his imprisonment. Oldboy 2003 is a classic piece of Korean cinema, and it was remade in 2013 by Spike Lee. If Joe can figure out who Adrian is and why he imprisoned Joe, Adrian will give Joe the recording of him raping and killing his ex-wife, a written confession of those crimes along with his imprisonment, $20 million in diamonds, and he gets to watch Adrian blow his brains out. It was the second film, coming after Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and before Lady Vengeance. Oldboy. Adrian then fulfills his promise and commits suicide. She drives off to live her life with the rubber duck on the dashboard of her truck. Oldboy | 2013 | R | - 8.9.8 Remake of the 2003 Korean revenge thriller about a man (Josh Brolin) who was kidnapped and held captive in a motel room for twenty years. James White is a graduate from the University of Nebraska in Lincoln who loves to write and analyze various forms of media. Yes, you heard me right: a dad that spies on his daughter from a small jail. Image from Oldboy (2013) The original Korean made 2003 Oldboy was a gripping tale of mystery, anger, and revenge with a horrifying twist that would make anyone cringe. When Chucky insults Mia, Adrian, who is listening on a cloned cell phone, kills him before Joe can arrive. Instead, Lee decided that everyone should live happily ever after; therefore, Doucett ends up with a fortune and sends a share of it to help his daughter start her life over, telling her hell never see her again. The second film in Park Chan-wooks Vengeance trilogy back in 2003, Oldboy is the one most associated with the director's success. And while bettering himself in the process he aims to find out why he endured his confinement. Its powerful cinema indeed. [10] The producing team announced on November 2009 that the project was dead.[11]. Before he gets locked away, Joe isnt a good father. "[35], Justin Chang of Variety said that "Lee and Protosevich have made a picture that, although several shades edgier than the average Hollywood thriller, feels content to shadow its predecessor's every move while falling short of its unhinged, balls-out delirium. The most noticeable difference between the two films while the main character is imprisoned is what they write on the paper provided to them in the hotel room. Oldboy 2013 compiles the hallucinations and that dreaded sense of loneliness into one short sequence where a bearded and long-haired Joe sees a bellhop at the hotel sitting on his bed eating popcorn and laughing at the TV. Its literally heart-wrenching, a little hopeful, and a little painful. View all posts by Junko, A place to discuss, comment on and geek out about stuff in the world of fandom (i.e., comics, movies, gaming, animation, toys, etc.) These TV show segments were so unusually well-timed that the viewer knows that its fake and a set-up. Joe neglects his three year-old daughter Mia and is estranged of his ex-wife Donna. It was Wierd and dumb for there to be a love triangle between the dad, daughter and son. But when he removes a knife from his back, he squeals and squeals and squeals. Out of the blue, Joe is kidnapped and locked alone in a room for twenty years. In a way, this has provided a blueprint for how series/movies use incest for plot twists in more recent media. We've gone through several editorial changes since we started covering films in 1992 and older reviews are not as complete & accurate as recent ones; we plan to revisit and correct older reviews as resources and time permits. Another red flag was that there was lengthy setup of our hero being an asshole. A man spits out his food, he then angrily throws a tray of food at a wall. Oldboy.2013.720p.BluRay.DTS-5.1.x264-AXED (by: Matmanamane) Webdl ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy.German.2013.BDRiP.x264-EXQUiSiTE (by: Matmanamane) TH Thai Bluray ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy (2013) 720p BluRay - OCR (by: tre2004) TR Turkish Trke Webdl ( 1 subtitles) Oldboy.2013.BDRiP.AC3-5.1.XviD-AXED (by: mstskn) NL Dutch Nederlands, Vlaams Webdl Its the cultural nuance around the scene where the protagonist begs the antagonist to not to reveal the truth to his daughter. Chaney: I swear, I don't know nothin'! On July 11, 2011, Mandate Pictures sent a press release stating that Spike Lee would direct a remake of the South Korean film (ignoring the earlier version's adaptation of the manga) with a screenplay written by Protosevich. Shot over the course of three days in Oldboy 2003, the hammer/corridor sequence has no hidden cuts and is actually shot in one-take, unlike other movies that use tricks for one-shot scenes. An American remake of Oldboy (2003) previously had director Justin Lin attached, with Ernesto M. Foronda and Fabian Marquez writing the screenplay after previously collaborating with Lin on Better Luck Tomorrow (2002). Apparently, it was safer to say that Doucetts daughter was 23 years old, rather than 18. This thriller is not available on all streaming platforms, so let me tell you where to watch Oldboy 2003. It triggers what should normally be a happy ending where the protagonist gets with their love interest, which in turn makes viewers all the more unsettled when it sinks in that they are being emotionally manipulated to be happy for this incestuous relationship. We see a portion of one fitness video of women wearing bikini tops and bottoms and we see a tight shot of the woman's backsides as they bend down (cleavage, bare abdomen, bare backs and part of their bare buttocks are seen). I wont go into the other levels of failure and why it didnt work, but it was pretty bad in conveying any sort of story within the fighting like Parks fight scene achieved. It is not unreasonable that someone so young would not remember the appearance of their father after a 15 year absence. Our ratings and reviews are based on the theatrically-released versions of films; on video there are often Unrated, Special, Director's Cut or Extended versions, (usually accurately labelled but sometimes mislabeled) released that contain additional content, which we did not review. Joe is drugged shortly thereafter, and wakes to find himself outside with a cell phone and a small amount of money. As the author, I had to make a fact correction regarding *Theres not an apparent explanation for how our hero meets his daughter in the first place. It is the second and most well-known installment of Park Chan-wook 's "Vengeance Trilogy", which begins with Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and ends with Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. Just go to our search page or use the search bar, with or without a keyword, from the top navigation menu. Also with Samuel L. Jackson, Elizabeth Olsen, Michael Imperioli, Sharlto Copley and Pom Klementieff. It stars Josh Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen, and Sharlto Copley . A man's room fills with gas and the man awakens in a field, unharmed but completely disoriented. With no clue how he came to be imprisoned, drugged and tortured for 15 years, a desperate businessman seeks revenge on his captors. He gives most of them to Marie along with a box full of other mementos like the rubber duck and a letter saying shell never see him again but that hell love her forever. Old Boy MPA Rating : for strong brutal violence, disturbing images, some graphic sexuality and nudity, and language. Starring: Choi Min-sik, Yoo Ji-tae, Kang Hye-jeong. The role was the motel prison captor who, in Parks film, gets his hand chopped off; remember him? For Oh Dae-su, a man that was just utterly demolished mentally, physically and emotionally, he did not have the strength to endure his life with the knowledge of the truth. Notably, both the original film and the manga predate the long-running Saw franchise and other contemporary movies and series that deeply explore body horror. The first conclusion that audiences have of Oldboy is that this is Oh Dae-Su's revenge, and when you think deeper, a revenge within a revenge film. . Watch Oldboy: Josh Brolin Transformation (Featurette). But make no mistake Oldboy is all over the place, sometimes playing like a subdued melodrama and elsewhere erupting into flamboyance and gore. The website's critical consensus reads, "Suitably grim and bloody yet disappointingly safe and shallow, Spike Lee's Oldboy remake neither surpasses the original nor adds anything new to its impressive legacy. While in his hotel room, Oh Dae-su sees an ant crawling under his skin before a swarm of them are suddenly crawling all over his face. [5] Mark Protosevich was in talks to write the script, although the acquisition to the remake rights were not finalized. Although Spike Lee's Oldboy fails to use the element of surprise and capture the visceral nature of Park Chan-wook's dark incestuous tale, it's still a tribute thatwarrants a watch. Essay by Brian Eggert March 23, 2009. I wish you luck with that Michael (thats the full version of your name by the way, in case you were wondering. We are a totally independent website with no connections to political, religious or other groups & we neither solicit nor choose advertisers. A man with a knife stands up to attack another man as two other men with guns point them him; a woman grabs the knife from the man and kicks him in the stomach and torso, the man drops to the ground and we see two guns drawn and pointed at the knifeman. It comes from a segment near the end of the 2013 movie review, in a flashback where Adrian's father, Arthur goes around with a shotgun, and tries to murder his family. OLDBOY is an American remake of a 2003 Korean thriller. Im no therapist (although you may think about seeing one), but do you you think maybe, just maybe, it wasnt the author you were so angry with, but rather, years and years of building frustration at your own near retardation level of intelligence finally boiling over? Im also assuming that my readers have seen the original, Korean version of Oldboy. We see a sign that reads, "Guns don't kill, people do." Adrian Doyle Pryce only gives Joe 46 hours in Oldboy 2013. However, Lees film also revealed that the villains father was having sex with his own 16-year old daughter (not the villain having sex with his sister as in Park Chan-wooks film). Joe also bites the webbing of his hand until it bleeds in order to draw a face in his blood on his pillowcase for comfort, in a way that reminds of Wilson from Cast Away. Junko lives in Los Angeles and is an actor, consultant, Japanese/English interpreter and translator in addition to being an equestrian and mounted archer, who peruses the aisles of the local Book Off (Japanese second hand bookstore) for her next manga discovery. Joe follows a delivery from the restaurant to a warehouse where he was imprisoned, and meets Chaney, its owner. Apparently not for Doucett, who just ignores it and keeps fighting. Again, the movie makes it unclear if Oh Dae-su actually found the hypnotist or if it is just a way to project his own attempts to block the memory, as the next scene shows her nowhere to be found and instead, he is laying in the snow where Mi-do finds him and confesses his love for him. The love that blossoms between Mi-Do and Oh Dae-Su is not as romantic as it seems anymore, not when they are father and daughter. Lee Woo-jin shoots himself after convincing himself that revenge was all he wanted out of life, thus preventing him from ever moving on and forever locking his life to the past, and Oh Dae-su tries to make himself stay with his daughter in an attempt to make himself ignorant of the painful truth. movies in Park Chan-wooks Vengeance trilogy, How Inside Man: Most Wanted Connects To The Spike Lee Original, movies that use tricks for one-shot scenes, how series/movies use incest for plot twists, Why Park Chan-wook Has Disowned His Debut The Moon Is The Sun's Dream, WandaVision's darkly comedic use of a sitcom-within-a-series, movie featuring both Josh Brolin and Elizabeth Olsen, Why Zombie Scarlet Witch Cant Defeat Ultron (But Wanda Could Beat Thanos). To give some context surrounding the climactic ending of the film, Oldboy is a South Korean film directed by Park Chan-Wook that focuses on the journey of a man named Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) after being locked away in a mysterious prison for fifteen years. While we read all emails & try to reply we don't always manage to do so; be assured that we will not share your e-mail address. Lee Woo-jins revenge comes in the form of hypnotizing both Oh Dae-su and Mi-do to fall in love with each other, but due to being in prison for 15 years Oh Dae-su doesnt recognize that Mi-do is his now adult daughter. A man shouts angrily at a woman (his ex-wife) over the phone and the woman angrily screams back. Although Oldboy and Squid Game are vastly different, a similar characterization can also be observed in Squid Game protagonist Gi-hun. So Ill just barf out the major wrongs about this sad re-make and be done with it. Oh Dae-su writes a detailed journal of what he goes through over the course of several years in Oldboy 2003. Later, Chaney has his henchman Cortez rape Marie. A man holding a box cutter fights off a group of 10+ and we see in slow-motion as the man kicks, punches and stabs his way through the men who all fall to the ground; the man runs into a second group of 10+ men and he punches, kicks and stabs his way through the second group of men, until he is stabbed in the back and he comes upon a third group of 10+ men in a cargo elevator who are covered in blood, lying in various positions in the elevator and one man with a sword through his chest is shoved to the ground by the man with the knife in his back; the man pulls the knife from his back and collapses to the ground as he crawls outside where a man and a woman pick him up and put him in a car, and then dump him outside a bar; we see the man recovering later as a doctor tells a woman that the man had been stabbed countless times and one of the wounds was centimeters from being fatal (a small amount of blood is seen on a bandage and bruising on his torso). It is both one of our best strengths and greatest weaknesses, as while rampant emotions can lead us to doing things that we may later regret, without them, we lose a huge chunk of what makes us human in the first place. The story follows a hopeless alcoholic named Joe, who's mysteriously kidnapped in 1993 and held hostage in a sparsely furnished room for the next 20 years. Joe writes letters to his daughter Mia in Oldboy 2013. He doesnt spy on his daughter with a hidden camera at the end. If You Liked 'Parasite', Check Out These 20 Other Great South Korean Films, The 10 Greatest Classic Film Noirs, According to Reddit, This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit, Zombies in TV & Movies Ranked by How Likely You Are to Survive Them. [28], The film grossed $885,000 in its first five days, one of the weakest Thanksgiving openings of all time, according to Variety. Obsessed with vengeance, a man sets out to find out why he was kidnapped and locked into solitary confinement for twenty years without reason. Yes he just takes himself out of the picture. The Spike Lee joint is making a resurgence on the streaming giant, coming in at sixth . I just saved you a few bucks. See production, box office & company info, Surprisingly engaging Brolin pulls out all the stops, WatchMojo: Another Top 10 Worst Hollywood Remakes. In the manga, Shinichi Got has the tracking device buried in his back near his right shoulder blade that Eri has to dig out with a knife. Just as Chaney is about to beat him savagely, the Stranger calls Chaney and offers to pay him for Joe's release, and Chaney lets them go. Like. Unfortunately for Oh Dae-su, the revenge for his actions is far from over like he thinks. A man announces that he is going to urinate as we see him face the toilet, spit (we see spittle leaving his mouth and hear it hit water) and then begin to urinate (we hear the sound of urination). And you will be helping support our website & our efforts. Director: Spike Lee Writers: Mark Protosevich Mi-do relates it to a time when she was alone on the subway and saw a human-sized ant in the same car as her. What the what!? Before he passes out, he sees a woman with a yellow umbrella. Meanwhile, in 2013's Oldboy, Joe catches Adrians sister Amanda having sex with their father Arthur at school. Touching Mi-do is all that's mentioned in Oldboy 2003. An older man makes a crude sexual remark to a man as a threat to the man's genitals. We learn that a man and a woman that have been shown having sex are father and daughter and that neither were aware of their relationship when they engaged in sex, but the man is disgusted and horrified when it is revealed and he is forced to watch clips of CCTV footage of him having sex with his own adult daughter. See ratings & reviews at Critics.com. That said, it's incorrect to labelthe Oldboy remake a bad movie. When Joe and Marie return back to the motel, Marie takes a picture of the yearbook photo where it now returns back to just "Adrian Pryce". When Lee Woo-jin is breaking down the rules of the game for Oh Dae-su into in Oldboy 2003, he claims to have a pacemaker with a remote that could cause Dae-su's heart to stop at any moment, and threatens to do this if Dae-su tries to kill him one of the many horror movie tropes and easter eggs in Oldboy. SUBSTANCE USE - A man offers to buy a woman an "eight ball" of drugs and the woman turns him down. The street vendor Joe buys the rubber duck from is wearing angel wings, which references Oh Dae-sus birthday present to his daughter in Oldboy 2003. The sex scene in the American version was so overdramatic it was almost funny. [17] Elizabeth Olsen,[18] Samuel L. Jackson[19] and Nate Parker[20] were all later announced to have joined the cast. Liar, Liar (Between Father and Daughter) VHS Lifetime Movie Canadian Full Andrew Spannaus 2.23K subscribers Subscribe 1.2K Share Save 162K views 6 years ago A Canadian little girl notorious for. Directors Spike Lee Starring Samuel L. Jackson, Elizabeth Olsen, Josh Brolin Genres Suspense, Drama, . Although Thanos is dead, given Brolin and Olsen's onscreen chemistry, the two could soon pair up (or face off) once more in another feature. Instead, Lees re-write was to manipulate our hero via TV show segments to convince Doucett that his daughter was alive and well. 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