Reading the Wartburg Watch, is for me, like going to Meeting. Laura wrote: Exactly. Therefore, it must have been consensual. So this is a rare type of malignant leader. And that is something that Doug Wilson should learn, also. But I do believe that the perp is building a trap, kind of like a child building a tinker toy house around him and not being able to get out, by his self-perception that he is a logical genius. In that case, Wilson sat on the abusers side of the courtroom and argued for leniency on sentencing. Wilsons charisma carries a threat of violence which is titillating for many people, I think. It also means that even the holiest of the anointed pastors and fathers, are not the paragons of virtue they must be for patriarchal/FIC theology to create the perfect world it promises. If only people would get the correct working logic to process life perfectly, and then imbibe the apparently inerrant inputs of his biblical intepretations, they would come to the same [brilliant] conclusions as does Mr. Wilson. Ty everyone for being here. Check out the recent episode about them on the Leaving Eden podcast. I dont disagree with them on their theological concerns. Or perhaps they do grasp these factors and simply reject them in favor of their cherished KJV Blueprint. I wouldnt be surprised if the folks I work with, male or female, might call me sweet on occasion. Submission can be the safest response in those utterly hideous situations, particularly the double bind Doug Phillips had his victim in damned if she does, damned if she doesnt. Not boycotting him at the moment. When so much of theological conservatism/fundamentalism/evangelicalism was anti-intellectual in the 1970s and 80s, if you came from that background but happened to resonate with the idea that the Bible had something important to say to every academic discipline and life domain, then pseudo-intellectual would seem like The Real Deal in the absence of any other real reference to the contrary. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. Menken early in life so that he could get this write-up published in Slate magazine much later. Challenged on his support for the seminary student, Wilson claimed that the case was more complicated and that he knew facts he couldnt reveal. And here is visual proof of highly Piper regards Wilson. The statement sent ripples through the Christian blogosphere. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Then Doug Wilson's daughter (who has three daughters of her own) wrote a post on her blog entitled On not being a victim. In fact, when the couple got married in 2015, they choose to completely avoid meat during their wedding festivities, serving alternative dishes like hummus sandwiches, vibrant-looking salads, and more. Dan Busby, president of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability a certification agency that does not count Phillips ministry as a member said its not unusual to see a related for-profit business next to a nonprofit ministry. Perhaps this is the reason that sex abuse was not discussed with any seriousness at the Sex Summit. Gotta keep blaming the victim as much as possible and restoring the abuser into his position of authority just as quickly as possible. Yeah, its not funny. And so you have a magnet for those whose iron is set toward wanting intellectual consistency, theological validity, and practical guidance for navigating in the wild frontiers of a post-Christendom world. All the universe is Gods, and everything in it. That is, he has declared the plaintiff not to be a victim. 2. Wilsons is an intellect without practical, spirit-led intuition and a logic without love. And those who are contentious often seem to be unable to separate that from spewing contempt. A comment on Katie Botkins blog: President of Vision Forum, writer, minister, attorney, videographer, Joshua Phillips, Jubilee Phillips, Honor Phillips, MORE. You, in fact, may mean well. Here is the full text of Bealls statement (which, note, is apparently part one of a series of statements): Well, Mike, your article about Doug was, at the very least, in bad taste, and your representation of what Doug and I believe and what we have taught through Vision Forum was rife with gross error. Lets put them in our prayers. But the plaintiff herself has apparently said that some of them were not unwanted, but that she went along with them in return for something. Thats the entire case, in my opinion. In Gods economy, the down-trodden with get their day in court. But I would say, do not despair over American evangelicalism, it died decades ago (if it was ever alive in the first place). Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior., Because of its dominantly patriarchal character, it was a relationship based on mutual affection and confidence., So, this is how Wilson views racist slavery? Courtney Stodden was a 16-year-old who had dreams to become an actress. I know Ive said this here before, but am I the only one who doesnt think Doug Wilson is funny at all? Me too, Hester. Yeah, there are always people who are secretly enchanted by the sociopath and will use back-handed praise, but it is important to clearly understand ones enemy. The woman and the man both belong to God, equally. Look at Clinton. On Tuesday, Aug. 10, 2021, Jamie took to Instagram to announce that they are currently going through a tough period . All rights reserved. Hello, and thank you for your submission. Or in Topkapi Palace with his locked, eunuch-guarded harem. Makes sense to me that Christ is most glorified when women shine as the GLORY (read definition) of adam. Trolls are from down below, referring to lower Michigan. It says this because it is clear that there were instances where she did give consent, and her attorney wants to say that she was in effect in the position of a minor when she did so. LONG LIVE BIG BROTHER!, So, this is how Wilson views racist slavery? 64! And its what warns me to stay away from DW. There has been quite a bit of discussion, with comments approaching 200 at the writing of this post. Torres has filed a lawsuit against her former employer, alleging that Phillips committed "inappropriate, unwanted, and immoral sexual acts" against her while she worked and lived in the Phillips' home and tended to his children. After cancelling all planned speaking engagements, Phillips, however, on Wednesday (Nov. 6) said he will still maintain ownership of the affiliated Vision Forum Inc., a for-profit company. I believe you are approaching this with balance, and I can appreciate that. And talk about culture wars! Also learn how He earned most of networth at the age of 55 years old? I fully understand that may sound clich or nave but I dont care. Defense AGAINST the dark artsWhat a total torture I could be to an editor somedaybetter keep my day job:-). Like Driscoll and his clumsy Neuro-linguistic programming juju, language for him is just a tool to snow people. You can tell them all day long that God is love but if they do not see Jesus as a coming warrior and conqueror they will not follow him. I regularly describe my wife as sweet, and indeed she is, according to a dictionary definition: delightful, likeable, engaging, friendly, thoughtful, considerate, charming, enchanting, captivating, lovely.. Let us hope that hyper-patriarchialism and its cousin dominionism work toward the downfall of hyper-calvinism. These folks make their living off this stuff. a situation that deals with a heathen man in a worldly environment? I get that. Thought that was resolved with the Nicene Creed? Nor did it even cross my mind to tell my parents. Honestly, to say that people man, woman, child should dress appropriately ought to be enough. I think this is why successful sociopaths appear both ludicrous and bewildering, insisting on obviously silly ideas even while many people are held under their sway. The latter is a huge deal, taking great courage because every single thing in her life spoke against it. Its still considered sexual assault. And if followers are content in going to secondary sources to mediate spiritual Life, that means theyve turned this mere man into their idol. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. http://kbotkin.com/2014/04/22/vice-victims-and-doug-wilson/#comment-3602 But there can be no doubt as to the gypsy origin of mash as used on the stage. In fact, in that era there were a couple of malignant ministries and churches around, and the leader at a relatively healthy church in town once told me that a main part of their ministry was to help the refugee Christians whod been hurt by those other churches. Marie2 wrote:(I disagree about the wrongness of calling adults sweet. Doug Phillips and gang appear to have been staging their lives to impress those who would follow them. @ Rosmary Huskey: I read somewhere about the thing about women being saved through childbearing as being about women being kept safe as they gave birth, not the act of childbearing being a thing that saves women. Kind of like if someone writes me and says, God says people who wear sandals to church have to stand in the back row. And I write back and say, God makes people with sandals stand in the back row. Open Discussion Page. @ LawProf: It makes no sense to load more shame onto them before they even get started, and to hand them more responsibility than whats already contained in having to heal from deep wounds given them through no fault of their own. The couple raised eyebrows in 2011 when they married despite their 35-year age difference and the fact that Stodden who is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns was underaged. This victim was groomed by a manipulator, in the same way that victims are often groomed by perps. His oldest son is married and has kids. Rawles gushes about Wilson here: He knew I was angry but that didnt make a difference. I mean, that shtick is straight out of a porn flick! When we add that in, Torres consent gets even more questionable. Original audio. This is also why I dont like seeing this thing referred to as an affair, or as adultery. But when compared to, say, Gary North, James Dobson, John Piper, Al Mohlerwell, at least theres something going on in Doug W. Maybe thats it. (RNS) Doug Phillips, an outspoken proponent of male "dominion" over women and a leading home-schooling activist, has stepped down as president of his Texas-based Vision Forum Ministries after. The victim in this would have been Beall, with two people victimizing her. @ Headless Unicorn Guy: If clarity is central to writing, how good of a communicator (let alone a comedian) can you be when people cant even understand why your jokes are funny? he much prefers wit to wisdom Justin Taylor and The Gospel Coalition, Christianity Today, Ligonier Ministries, etc.) @ Muff Potter: We contacted Dougs board and none of them would even look at the volumes of evidence we had against Doug. . . Carson article on the Gospel Coalition website, and I saw a prominently placed ad for this website on the right side of the page: Because he has always been in love with himself neither of these realities dissuade him from kissing his shaving mirror every morning and trotting out to spread his baloney far and wide. Hi Rosemary, Im another one of your fans. There is a particular charisma to it all that draws in some people who seem to find that form of humor awesome instead of gruesome as you said, its more a chainsaw than not. Those patriarchal idiots and their wives do not have enough emotional intelligence in their bodies to understand such a nuance. My father was quieter than Doug, not really that interested in fame, but he had a similar roving mind and sadism that caused the parsonage to be like what Rosemary writes: Many people have good reason to fear him.There is a miasma of mean-spirited bitterness that hangs over the Kirk like a thunder cloud which emphasizes their election and our damnation.. I DO believe that the strength of a victims testimony can put a perp away for a long time. Despite his best efforts, in my view, Doug is tenuously perched on the third (or lower) tier of Neo-Calvinism big hitters. some complementarians are now campaigning for the return of head-coverings for women. But she did go to church authorities! [16] Phillips had left the church in July.[17]. Sault Ste Marie The wearing of fabric head coverings in worship was universally the practice of Christian women until the twentieth century. Googling Doug Phillips + Vision Forum + Homosexuality does bring up the famous Matt Chancey "Art of Manliness" incident. The way I see it, a woman being assertive, speaking her mind, and being to-the-point about it is called shrill and immediately disqualified. Wilson could care less whether or not he added anything to the apologetic arsenal for Christians that out live him; he or at least an important part of his unconscious mind would burn the entire thing to the ground for some more camera clicks, some more glory, and some higher seats for the males that have sprung from his loins or married within the clan. I may have hopes about the outcome. That did not associate in my mind with being a psychopath. One day Ill have to find the weird note he wrote me at a conference to share here. Or even what youre talking about? Hester, what people think is comedy has always been so interesting to me. Together, they were a tabloid magnet. Until then, please take my family off your membership list immediately. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back. The other is the approach of lets empower and protect as many people as possible. Late Victorian terminology. I am despondent, but not surprised, to hear that the Gospel Coalition is advertising this. Most of the Wilsonisms in question appear to be attempts at jokes that were DOA. I found it particularly helpful in dealing with processing an extreme anger management moment last Fall. Im a sometime-reader of Wilson (complicated reasons why). Many apologies, again. Ive read some of your stuff online, here/there, and its a delight to read because of what you can make words do. 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I know Ive said this here before, but am I the only one who doesnt think Doug Wilson is funny at all? (RNS) Doug Phillips, an outspoken proponent of male dominion over women and a leading home-schooling activist, has stepped down as president of his Texas-based Vision Forum Ministries after admitting to an inappropriate relationship with a woman. @ BTDT & Nancy: They just went along with what happened as it was the easiest and safest way out of that situation (no resistance = no violence etc) Submission can be the safest response in those utterly hideous situations, particularly the double bind Doug Phillips had his victim in damned if she does, damned if she doesnt. By R.L. Yes, charisma is too limited to be universally appealing because it is limited by the individual carrying it. However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. Left when Schaeffer was still in ascendance. I have no reason to know, nor would the general public, if an unknown Mr. Phillips of Nowhere in Particular had committed grave sin and crime against a young woman. Does Wilson use this Redoubt term too? Even if she does not get monetary relief, I think she will get her day in court. from http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/masher: One who, or that which, mashes. It was so patriarchal it put the entire burden and responsibility of the wifes faith onto her husband. Youd think if it was that important, theyd at least get the scripture reference right. Too late here for coffee, Marie2! A native of New Middletown, Ohio, Phillips attended the University of Toledo from 1987 to 1991. And such photos also should make us ask just who is this about, anyway? Especially when posted by someone who is ostensibly on a mission trip. Oh, could I go on and on and on. Finally, she was practically yelling about that crazy dentist Dr. Acer in Florida whod infected some of his patients and blah-bluh-blah this and BLAH-BLUH-BLAH THAT and . Well, since Doug Wilson cannot even acknowledge the little children who were victims of the member from his own church, I would not expect him to support Doug Phillips' victim in any way. On Season 1 of the Lifetime original series, Otis and Hehner got off to a rough start, with Otis saying she. Yes, thats the one. They did not stop it. Also, Julie Anne of Spiritual Sounding Board has been in direct contact with people from Boerne Christian Assebly and/or Vision Forum who can corroborate many of the facts in this story. I think this is why successful sociopaths appear both ludicrous and bewildering, insisting on obviously silly ideas even while many people are held under their sway. If I have to be a feminist in order not to try to live in the Middle Eastern culture of 2000 years ago, Ill wear the t-shirt. Well, if the standard is John Piper, I suppose Wilson is funny. Maybe those you quote didnt bother to acquaint themselves with a timeline of the alleged events (link below). This is true, at least, so long as the world would allow him keep his pulpit and halo. For more than 26 years, the Basketball Wives star has been married to former NBA player and current Sacramento Kings assistant coach Doug Christie. While she objected numerous times to his sexual behavior (according to the complaint), the complaint also uses phrases like she came to see her situation as abusive, he persuaded her, she continued to work for him for several years not wanting to disappoint, and so on. AATT Staff. The fact that he is much older, married, and her employer, for one. One of them ranked among the worst-written, worst-researched books Ive had the misfortune to read. In 2014, Michael Farris, the chairman and cofounder of the Home School Legal Defense Association, criticized the biblical patriarchy beliefs of his former HSLDA colleague Doug Phillips, and said he regrets not speaking out against him sooner. I would choose my husband again any day. Lake Superior State University in Michigan and Algoma University and Sault College of Applied Arts in Sault Ste Marie, Ontario. In other words, I think Wilson cracks himself up. Because of that, he schmoozes things hes said before and sometimes contradicts himself. At the time, I thought that was a very unique thing to do in the midst of what (for me) was an evangelical cultural/artistic landscape devoid of much substance. ^ The City in Slang, by Irving L. Allen, p. 195 On her terms, she was seduced into a compromised position and conflicted state of mind. My aim was to try to get you to take offense at how I worded this comment and get you to perhaps feel the impact of some of this. In his resignation letter, Phillips sought forgiveness. Slavery is mentioned in the Bible. Trying to get into a mind like Mr. Wilsons, I think this is code for: Silence is the best policy, we ought to deal with the matter internally, the heathen world is watching, and it beshmirches the Cause of Christ, Homeschooling and Patriarchy (not necessarily in that order of importance) for such matters to get a public airing, least of all in heathen courts; it would be far better if Mr. Phillips were rhetorically taken to the woodshed by some other leaders within the Patriarchal World, sent into exile for a year or two, then brought back contrite, refurbished and publicly endorsed by the same elders, where he could continue his great ministry, with all detractors, including Ms Torres-Manteufel, accused of bitterness, envy and slander if they refused to go quietly.. The length and focus of this posting is beginning to feel way too self-centered. maybe he can run for Idaho Gocernor!!!??? Having learned what Ive now learned about Wilson, his views on slavery and the like, I now regard him the same way I would regard a Neo-Nazi or other form of white supremacist. Reminds me of Much Ado About Nothing: This learned constable is too cunning to be understood. I thought it was worth going over that section specifically, and placing it within the . The kind of thinking that victims have somehow participated or asked for it has been more common than not in the past; but if you find yourself thinking such things, please do some in-depth reading on the subject. Once married, women are taught that self . I cant see why I should listen to him on this subject or any other. ignore 2nd paragraph above (the rough draft that got away). ISTM that Piper cares, but has little ability. I tried to interject something about Matt Chancey, who won that Old Spice Man of the Year competition some years back, but no one seems to be commenting on it. Most of the Wilsonisms in question appear to be attempts at jokes that were DOA. And, as predicted, all attention went to her. . Phillips was not the victim in those cases and they do not lessen his culpability for the relationship overall. When someone like Farris constructs straw men of people like Doug Phillips, that helps no one. My father loved classical literature and classical music played all day long. He also appears to be a polymath of immense intellect capability. Soooo when I went to a very large conference, and none of the speakers had admitted to being someone who has lived through childhood sexual abuse, I just felt abused all over again. My takeaway, after reading the above quotes, is that Wilson and McDonald are more interested in keeping their patriarchy brand unsullied than in seeing justice be done. That would be nice. @ Nancy: @ LawProf: No he isnt a fool. And not just the appearance of contempt, but the substance: labeling, name-calling, sharp and over-the-top sarcasm designed to dehumanize, and other forms of minimization and marginalization. Even sarcasm can be funny if its used properly (and probably sparingly). Would that be the same American Redoubt that Christian survivalist James Wesley Rawles tells people to relocate to? People who have never been through the bizarre, nasty hierarchy of Look at me!! Granted, Wilson had some harsh words for Phillips, but he criticized what he described as resorting to the 'unbelieving civil courts'. He sees himself in the Big House at Tara holding the whip. He has written or edited the following books (published by his own company Vision Forum): On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. At university I studied medieval history for three years, and I was able to see immediately that Wilsons arguments were pure poppycock: they revealed a complete and utter lack of understanding of the Middle Ages. Noun[edit] I suppose its to be expected when a group separates itself from the larger world, believing that out there is sin and in here is safe, assuming that they only have the truth (and the whole truth, too) and anything they dont know doesnt really exist except as sin. I only say this because I believe that TWW is a wonderful, safe place where people get abuse. from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sault%20ste.%20marie. This issue is just such a difficult one to discuss, and I grew up in constant chaos and bickering (alcoholic home, live at home sexual perpetrator, almost out of a Lifetime Movie) so I have low tolerance for constant disagreement and misunderstanding. These are not charismatic people in the larger sense, they are people that the culture at large and most Christians consider repulsive and uncharismatic. Wilson is some form of sociopath, for sure, but he does at least feel strongly and intensely over the moral virtues of loyalty (to him) and the power and wealth he is able to hand to his covenantal, biological, direct decedents.. Probably wont until the Big Box is over. It just seems that we are dealing with more extreme theological views on the right of theological spectrum without a careful basis in scripture. Its something that happened and life goes on and you block it out your consciousness until it eventually resurfaces. Normal biological responses that might be seen as pleasureable do not minimize the fact that victims are victims. 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