Just kind of odd. So Chris Watts said she barely got into bed, and soshe barely got into bed? I would like to read the discovery how do I find it? Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. The floors in the closets had a lot of junk on them, her nightstand drawer was a mess. I doubt shed just leave her phone and stuff downstairs like that. There are no words . Some people never saw. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. But legally it was in Chriss name. The autopsy is commenced at 1730 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Celeste Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. Similarly, the anxiety caused by these obsessions can be lessened by different compulsions, such as checking (e.g., re-checking door locks, repeatedly making sure the oven is off), repeating (e.g., doing the same action or ritual over and over to be sure it was done correctly), and counting (e.g., doing things in certain numbers, counting items to certain numbers). With that much free time in the day, she could have gotten a part-time job and brought home real money. Was there no evidence of feces on the girls beds either so maybe they were not killed in bed? And honestly Im sure he had a lot of time on his hands to do stuff. The womans home was spotless & there was a place for everything & everything was labeled! He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. Watts was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger, and Shananns texts show he had grown cold to her. *** Wearing a bra to bed is in fact QUITE common with busty women**. Shananns Blood Alcoholic Content was 0.128. Celeste and Bellas bodies were each inside one of the tanks. Also in his re-enactment they also didnt add up. They went to her house and observed her car in the garage. In addition, it became clear that she used bed as a punishment. Doesnt mean he couldnt have used his presence in the marital bed to induce her to get close to him and give him the opportunity. I feel like maybe she did meet them. Like you, I was suspicious about the DAs assessment. Because you asked if I hurt her and I said no but I hurt her emotionally the agents said they already knew about Nikki which took Chris by surprise, he then realizes shes talked to the police. I bet there was no conversation. From what I understand its not possible to swallow fluids once youre dead. But then whats your scenario? https://youtu.be/U8fe6Ckeh5A?t=210. They found nothing of any importance under her fingernail scrapings. Hello everyone, He failed all 3 questions. Remember it wasnt just the suitcase downstairs, her purse was downstairs too. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. I believe the DA said there was no evidence of fibers related to the smothering of Bella and Celeste. give me a break. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! They obviously didnt watch the K9 body cam footage! I always wondered why she didnt fight back, too. I'm not sure whether the restrictions on health related information had a bearing on this aspect, or the Thrive aspect, or both. If you read through the autopsies very well you will see that the oldest girl, Bella, actually bit her tongue several times and had many injuries in her mouth. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. GREELEY, Colo. Authorities have released the autopsy reports for Shanann, Bella and Celeste Watts, who were murdered by Christopher Watts in August. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. Its what seems to make sense, based on the info we recently learned. He said he was downstairs, came back up and they were gone. Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. Everyone did think I was the nutty one by what he said cause he was a great guy to them. She often plied them with food and treats and I just felt like she needed to set some boundaries. Did anyone explain that? Terrifying to think he could have put them in the tanks still alive but incapacitated. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. Celestes stomach was empty. I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. Had he planned this out, he would have killed them earlier, left in the middle of the night, in the dark, to dispose of the bodiesnot as the sun was coming up as seen in the tape. Kaye, this sounds plausible. She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. The reports also show that Shananns fetus had been expelled from her body, which was buried in a shallow grave. So if his parents are doing interviews and book deals, he gets it honest I reckon. No, so you have same information that anyone else has. Ive wondered if he made her a drink when she got home, a smoothie with some type of alcohol that you wouldnt taste in it to knock her out because she didnt drink. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. Everything you say can & has been disputed. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. No one deserves what happened to those kids and their mother-you have issues. Jeremy Lindstromwondered if Shananns OCD and honey-do lists had gotten to Chris. Her fully formed gallstone may have contributed to her not feeling well during her last MLM trip. I wrote a novel here but I can dispute any theory you have with common sense, and irrefutable evidence! Time needed to cause petechiae is; Fifteen to thirty seconds (Anscombe and Knight 1996); Ten to thirty seconds (Plattner et al 2005); Fifteen seconds maximum (Copley & Kozam 1951) using the capillary fragility test; Shortly after gravity inversion in healthy individuals (Friberg & Weinreb 1985) Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. its pretty clear they went to bed like normal >>>How is it pretty clear? I think she was killed in the basement, just by the bottom of the staircase, by the fridges and the area where they stored old rope. Judging any of the characters in this story as either all good or all bad doesnt help us figure out what really happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE. The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. Thankyou. Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. Triggers related to cleanliness and symptoms related to washing make up only a small part of the range I believe those stains were on the sheets and thats why they were pulled off. I believe the frenulum injury could be explained from the process of stuffing her head through the thief hatch post mortem it was a tight squeeze with the larger child. Required fields are marked *. DENVER (CBS4) The district attorney in Weld County says the autopsy reports are complete for Shanann Watts and her two young daughters found dead at . Dont forget, she is pregnant. There is supposed to be a black smear mark on one of her pillows, possibly from makeup she was wearing, indicating that she was crying. So wheres the problem here? Watts was arrested on August 15, 2018. I also think the MLM biz attracts people that are lost, and need to be directed and consumed by something. I think she died in bed after being knocked unconscious using Marks ethanol method. Air chokes have been associated with fractures of the larynx or hyoid bone and are considered less safe than blood chokes in these applications. Notice she was undressed when found. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. My youngest daughter slept in a bra as well. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? I guess my vanity rubbed off on her. The only thing that could have screwed with this is that $69 charge to the Lazy Dog. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. (He left the house as the sun was coming upmore on this below). Nickole called Christopher Watts and requested he come home and check on Shanann. Hey, I appreciate ppls input but to act all high and mighty and be disrespectful of others by trying to make them look and feel like idiotsI dont care how much you know or how smart you are. Chris Watts attacked her from behind, his left hand around her throat and his right hand covering her mouth and nose. Good point! Anyway, either you get it, or you dont. Youre obviously trolling! Like you, I believe the children were sedated, and possibly Shanann as well. CW said he was not a monster because in his opinion he killed them humanely. Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! She texted her GF talking about her being a single mom when she separated from Chris. None of that is going to me made public, for obvious reasons. They were smothered. She says did Shannan do something that made you do something? This was the last time she was seen alive. The children were in 20 foot tanks with hatches on top. The ground was visible disturbed. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. She also could not stand Shannan. I was married to someone, super attentive dad, husband. The coroner even said the way she was strangled is indicative of a person not putting up a fight. The one person who took a few breaths almost immediately fainted. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) External bruising may have been caused by the assailant releasing the victim after killing by stranglehold, and the victim falling onto an object which would cause small circular patternation and subsequent bruising. Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. It is my observation that Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was and stomped on her head to get her into the tank. Hence, no struggle, no stretches. He was all over the house. Also ethanol in the oil would not seep into the spleen in a body in 3 days to produce a high level like that, besides most ethanol is extracted through many processes prior to any petroleum company dumping the waste oil. So that indicates perhaps that she and Bella were murdered around the same time as Shanann Im guessing. I go back & forth wondering if he planned on killing the kids, or if Bella saw & then he had too. It makes the crime even more heinous in my mind because it would have required a lot of thought concerning the logistics. This whole thing is terrible. And about the **bra thing** (on or off, sleep or not), well this is a big deal to me, because I think it can be considered an indicator as to time of death, or at least, it can confirm she had the chance to get out of the clothes she came home in before she was attacked and killed. Mucho menos que estaba enferma. Do not make it more complex than it need be please. Listen to the cop who interrogated him after he tells that stupid story. She had the girls in daycare full time to the tune of $500 a week, spending $28k a year per official documents, and this HAD to be a financial strain. I hope he gets what he deserves while he is in prison!!!!!! Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. He resented how close they all were and was sadistic enough to hurt her. Or perhaps he left when the sun was coming up because thats when he usually left for work. So the agent says what about strangling? Amy thoughts on her? She had a separate closest for her shoes & purses. Was Niko Buried With Shan'ann Watts? My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. But the way he disposed of their bodies and took them out of school, I dont believe that at all. I dont know her daily habits, but i use mine as an alarm. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/, http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE, https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? I think she was then taken, with her children, out of the rear of the property for concealment. I havent seen one statement from anyone who knew her well say she did. Do you think he ninja-attacked her the moment she entered the house? According to the Denver Channel, Watts received three life prison terms without the possibility of parole. One thing that was truthful that came out of NKs mouth was that he lied about everything. @Lisa oh hell, if your description is an accurate one for a diagnosis of OCD, then I reckon I have it too! etc. Completely empty stomach contents doesnt necessarily indicate they died when Shanann died. How do you or any of us know what her last words to Chris were? Maybe body positioning and gravity? I think he snapped, pulled her off of Cece punched her in the face to knock her out and then strangled her with one hand. Her spouse has a religious obsession/addiction; I think youll see similarities. Cassie Rosenberg Page 626 Do you think youre asking for reasonable evidence that would be commonplace and easy to produce? Debbie do you have a link to that 411 Documentary please? He may not of been able to face their killings but if he was distant, cold, towards her, like the reports say, he wouldnt of had a problem killing her by strangulation if he was emotionally distant. You can see it in his eyes. Have you read the 2000 page discovery? She also wanted to make her marriage work. PLEASE know, all of these words are helping me to work through an event that is really messing with my head. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. Again, less bad publicity for LeVel. I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. First off lets not forget it was only after Chris failed the polygraph & then they said its time to come clean & Chris first said I had an affair, Ive been cheating on my wife, so I hurt her emotionally thats why its saying I lied. The DA explained that it is due to decomposition and the body breaking down. I do believe that she may have been the one who smothered the children because she was so controlling, according to friends and family, that she didnt want another woman around her kids. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. And dropped her in alive? Its definately not most. He eventually disappeared for long time, gave me house. Why was the oil/sludge found in Bellas stomach? Chris and or others..I tend to agreeShan ann was imodefinitely disabled at some pointBella maybe not..she fought hard. He probably wanted it done quickly and in the dark so he wouldnt have to see anyones faces, anything that might make him doubt what he is doing. Defining post mortem bruising requires qualified scientific investigation. Could be so because Shanann had no defensive wounds and he said she didnt fight. There is a text I think to chris. She wouldnt have gone to bed without her phone. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? But then I think if he didnt was he going to leave them at home alone all day? Read Thomas Molletts forensic report https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. He said they had been talking about separating for a few weeks. Even in this scenario, you would expect fingernails in his forearm if Watts managed a rapid 10 second kill. Strangleholds require little physical strength. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. MLM comes across in this paper as a cult-like entity that epitomizes absolute evil (evil = a foundation of lies) especially when you read the case histories. 3. ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. Since its clear CW is a flagrant coward, I am finding it hard to imagine him having enough courage to have looked at her eye to eye while he was strangling her. What was Shananns cause of death? I am very new to this case, only a couple of months ago, end of November 2020 to be precise. Autopsy shows oil, water, and sludge in their lungs, which cannot happen when you are dead. Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife when he found her murdering the girls, but he later pleaded guilty to all three murders. I approached an expert to get his take on it, and was a little disappointed by his findings: https://crimerocket.com/2018/12/17/thomas-molletts-forensic-report-on-shanann-watts-post-mortem-blood-alcohol-level/. Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. And in his own words under his own free will he admitted he act it killed his kids twice before that was ever said. Her legs would have been free, but if he was high up on her chest I doubt she would have been able to even get him with her knees, they would not have reached him. I found nothing unusual with that part. She left him a note the morning she left for Arizona and it was very loving & positive. Correct. The sheets were off because he used the fitted sheet to wrap her body in because of its rounded corners, he said this to the investigators. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? Do you think Shanann was the type of person to leave her suitcase downstairs and just go to bed? Areas of bruising, external. Ive been on those late flight arrivals often. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Watts Sentencing: Live Coverage and Analysis [Updated throughout the day] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Crime News November 2018 | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, The murder of the Watts children at CERVI 319 as Dramatized in FAMILY MAN, FAMILY MURDERER | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. And then it was turned off. She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. I just dont understand this. The autopsy report found that Shanann was in her second trimester of pregnancy and that the "largely decomposed fetus and placental unit" was found "expelled from the gravid uterus." Time of death for all three victims is unknown. Shannan was a hypochondriac, who was gonna turn her kids into the same. Because she was submerged in oil for four days. He had a plan to kill them all, all along. Ive seen hundreds of bodies both recently deceased and WELL decomposed and I can assure you- while SOME bodies dedicate/urinate due to the relaxing of muscles at the time of death- its certainly not most. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? Plenty of women do. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Hope he has a wonderful time rotting and thinking about what hes done to his family. Ive been reading this whole thread and as I always respect other ppls views and opinions as much as I can, there is one contributor to this conversation that thinks they know everything sigh. Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? Unfortunately she never got the chance. Because when he called her, he said, mom, they are searching the house. Why would he say that to her if she did not have prior knowledge? I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). Chris said Shanann arrived home from a trip. Police saw a bed sheet. As far as the OCD I dont believe she had it. Would he have cleaned up Shannans stuff if he didnt kill them? 1. Chriss demeanor was nonchalant. Lastly and not related to your book, I continuously read people stating that the only bruises on Shananns body were the on the right side of her neck. Now thats one of the main ways that most lay people think of first but he was coming up with these weird ways but distancing himself from strangling. It wouldnt have mattered about sleeping in the same bra and panties as shed travelled in she was going to be waking up at 4am when Chris woke as shed asked him to wake her and the hair care product purchase attempt was around 2am, so what would 2 more hours mean? They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. @Eleni Let me put it this way there is zero evidence that Shanann was upstairs. Meaning there should be no oil in her stomach just like cece. They manipulate, connive and plot. Ive never personally had a child repeatedly behave as the girls did, and pleasea disclaimer here. 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