i imagine that on some later cutaway examples, but don't know if i've seen it much on pre 50s examples. Under the aged black plastic dog-ear cover you'll find the same hand-fabricated bobbin, Alnico II bar magnets, plain enamel mag wire, and flatback tape you'd come across in an original Gibson pup. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. I don't know what it is with the Fralin's must be the fairy dust I have them in numerous guitars and they all sound stellar. I think my ears are starting to adjust to the Imperial. I had them in other Collings City Limits I have and they were nowhere near as good. Add to cart. I was much like you till i had my first set of John Suhr Boutique pickups installed in a Strat.I was amazed how much better they sounded then the same voiced Vintage 60s styled Dimarzios's that they had replaced since then i have given the boutique pickups a chance and not once have i been disappointed.. After re reading your post i think i may have misunderstood your point .. No, what I'm saying is one can't make a blanket statement that one is better than the others. Quote. I asked a few people what Seymour Duncan pickup is the most similar to a Lollar Imperial, and some said Pearly Gates, some said Pearly Gates is actually quite different and a Alnico II Pro is closer. Limited Edition Commissioned Builds by Bob Benedetto, I don't care if a dude is purple with green breath as long as he can swing., Virtuoso players: not necessarily songwriters. By We sell roughly 50% more Lollar standard Imperials than Low Wind and High Wind Imperials combined. Both guitars benefitted hugely by the upgrades. Your email address will not be published. For those who can't hear the difference: I recommend that you don't spend the money. So many factors to which pup is best in a particular axe. Seymour Duncan SH-1N 59 Model Humbucker for Neck - Single Conductor (Black) SEY-1200217. 2. Lollar Imperial vs Seth Lover - YouTube 0:00 / 2:35 Lollar Imperial vs Seth Lover Westwood Music 941 subscribers Subscribe 49K views 3 years ago David compares the Lollar Imperial. Also, I think Carvin AP11's sound outstanding in Bolt. Not very SRV. JavaScript is disabled. after playing the turd-polishing game myself before (i have an agile and no its not a turd, just an funny expression i use), i found that you cant go wrong with the tried and true, such as those 36s or seth lovers. The articulation is tight and defined, with a full bridge tone that cuts through the mix. Not to take away from Seymour Duncan, and DiMarzio pickups. Got another hour with them last night. But if there was no difference why would Duncan and DiMarzio both have custom pickups that cos as much or exceed the price of Fralin,Suhr or Lollar pickups? This corresponds to an approximate flight time of 0h 57min. I liked the Wolftone Dr Vintage set myself. They sound articulated and bright without being ear piercing. Guitar "feel". DA building custom made instruments, the guy who ordered it could also have said "no please don't do the black overlay thing", Hi Mark, They are not bright at all and are very balanced and articulate. Pickups are such ghetto ass 1950s technology anyway. (If youre after the sound of a fully cranked amp in a pedal, check out our roundup of the 10 best amp-in-a-box pedals with awesome tone!). Seymour Duncan Little 59 Strat Set Electric Guitar Electronics LOLLAR PICKUPS/Imperial Gold Cover Set Fender USA Pre-Wired Strat Pickguard Texas Special SSS Tortoise Shell 0992342506 Very nice and perfect for Clapton, SRV, Mayer sounds the neck pickup in particular is excellent. Hey, saw the same post at the LPF, so I paste what I replied there (if that's OK): 59 Duncan's were dark for my taste. There is a little bit of Ozone Metering on the output to level the peaks a little bit - very clean compressor. In Stock. I think my P92 set cost me $160. Lollar, & Fralin pickups in a different league than Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio, etc.? No, I've never played a strictly jazz guitar festival. Also, DiMarzio Model P or Aguilar AG4P are great pickups and more than meet your brief. They feature unbalanced coils that produce a tight bottom end that complements the pickups fullness and causes overtones to build up after each note is played. Sorted my back out. Whether you go completely clean or prefer a saturated sound, these pickups will do the job well. The 50s lollar set was even worse than the standard Duncan p90 set, IMO. While I must acknowledge the Lollar Low wind I had, my favorite humbucker so far has been Seymour's Antiquity. TheBluesbucker is a great option for players on a tight budget that are also looking to add some spark to their playing. Aug 28, 2020 #1. . DiMarzio doesn't make vintage-style PU's, some are vintage voiced, but not really vintage-spec. i'm glad the WCR, Fralins, and what not work for you guys but there is no way in hell i'd drop $300 on pickups that's just me however, if i were in the market for noiseless soap bars i would find a way to get the Kinman's:D. See with Chris Kinman it's more about the tech itself. As most people know, Slash used the APH-1 Alnico II Pro humbuckers in his Derrig Les Paul for decades, and recorded all of the Guns N Roses albums with that pickup. Thanks SOLR - Thanks for sharing that link, I'll definitely check that out. Planning to make a Bud inspired combo what speaker? The tech I used to install the Lollar had to solder the ground wire to a pot (can't remember if it was volume or tone pot) and soldered a guitar string to the ground wire for some reason. Those guys will be the first to admit they owe a lot to Duncan and DiMarzio. the shop set ups on these guitars is IME invariably terrible Got a dynarette guitar cushion. Lollar is a brand solely busy with creating the exact pickup that actually fits your desire and the tone that is buzzing in your head. It has a low output for a vintage tone, with a smooth grind and a sharp attack. Kelowna BC. .more .more 223 Dislike Share Save Max. When it comes to humbuckers, few pickups have the pedigree, history, and tradition of the Gibson 57 Classic. Planning to make a Bud inspired combo what speaker? The '59's were really "clanky" while the Imp's have a more musical attack and feel. Hi OMphalopsychos, that was a very interesting post and study, thanks for that ! Seymour Duncan SH-1 Vintage Blues 59 Model 2-piece Pickup Set - Black Demo SH-1 Humbucker Set - Black $168.30 Thanks!#Humbucker #Shootout #Paf0:00 Intro0:18 Neck/Clean0:53 Bridge/Clean1:39 Middle/Clean2:18 Neck/Overdrive 12:56 Bridge/Overdrive 13:35 Middle/Overdrive 14:22 Bridge/Overdrive 24:59 Middle/Overdrive 25:35 Neck/Overdrive 26:07 Bridge/Overdrive 2 Which is an IF The magnetism of Joe's '58 Gibson Flying V PAFs measured so high that Seymour Duncan's Custom Shop settled on the unusual choice of using Alnico 6 magnets in order to recreate it. Well a bit of an update, I pulled the Lollars out and put a couple Dimarzios that I had sitting around in the guitar. Prefer the smaller manufacturers-Fralin, WCR, Sheptone. Pearly Gates pickups are hand-built in Santa Barbara, California and youll find them in both standard humbucker and trembucker spacing. I'm happy with them. There aren't any magic parts that make any PU better than another, not a '59 PAF, not a '51 Broadcaster . They are fairly low output though, neck is a bit muffled, and the bridge is a bit weak and needed to be raised way up. I've played a lot of expensive gits with expensive pups. the Seymour Duncan Seth Lovers (Sh-55) vs. AntiquityI'm using my 2011 les Paul R8. Seths are unpotted, Imperials are about 10 second potted (according to my memory of some Jason Lollar interview). I had Burstbuckers in my '06 Les Paul Std. Getting back to best selling Lollar humbuckers: Our standard Lollar Imperial is our best selling humbucker - by far. Haven't tried the low wind but regular is very very nice.. DA building custom made instruments, the guy who ordered it could also have said "no please don't do the black overlay thing", Hi Mark, The Lollar Imperial humbucker pickups are made with Alnico 2 magnets for the neck position and Alnico 5 magnets for the bridge position. Do what makes you happy. I still don't understand it. Guitar humbucker wiring diagrams that show the coil winding start and finish wire colors, coil magnetic polarity and standard series in-phase humbucker wiring for the world's most popular guitar & bass humbuckers including: Anderson, Bare Knuckle, Bartolini, Benedetto, Bill Lawrence, Caparison, Carvin, DiMarzio, Duncan Designed, EMG, Fender, My only experience with Lollar was buying a couple Special T pickups for a Mexican tele I had. 246. Still the Duncans are really good. It is built with Alnico 5 bar magnet and vacuum wax potting to make it compatible with lighter gauge guitar strings. More refined sounding. This pickup is characterized by a warm sound and has a four-conductor cable to facilitate a variety of switching configurations. Yes, using a strap, but I'll have to check next time I play to see if I'm doing all the other stuff (hips, knees, ankles, 90 degrees, etc. The Pure PAF is a 50s PAF clone and Lindy Fralins favorite humbucker pickup. The pole screws were adjusted to taste.RS Guitarworks electronics in my guitar. i've tried one snakehead and totally felt for it but it was too expensive for my jazz youngster wallet. The engineers didn't want the covers because the dampening of higher frequencies. The 59 Model takes a beloved sound from a great old model and manages to make it even better! Both jazz and blues players will feel right at home with these humbuckers, as they provide great chord voicing definition for better clarity in the mix. Same with DiMarzio's. Youll find all these things and more in our roundup of the seven best humbuckers for jazz and blues. This pickup was designed as a PAF vintage output passive neck humbucker. Can't tell you how many engineers I know who hear the tone of a 59 and say "let's go with that, sounds great for this part". Just some thoughts before you start buying more pickups. The shortest route between Lollar and Berlin is according to the route planner. When used together in the bridge and neck position, they achieve an open and slightly hollow sound reminiscent of two single-coil pickups on a strat. Nov 22, 2008. They are worth the money no doubt. My only advice is to find a good A4 neck pickup. Fralin's shop is happy to take a special order, do repairs, etc. I've had some nice e-mail responses to pickup questions I've had from Lollar recently. Installed a set of WCR Crossroads in it, again, huge difference. Overall this is a very versatile option that will sound great in jazz, blues, and classic rock! 36ths are really good, so are pearly gates. So, check out the above picture. Select an option below to see step-by-step directions and to compare ticket prices and travel times in Rome2rio's travel planner. Both companies produce great products! Transform any Les Paul style guitar into a blues machine with the Pearly Gates. You would struggle to find a real difference in the construction of a pretty good single coil and a Fralin. Do you agree with this? )I'll try to be strict with it, see if it helps. So I ordered a Thornbucker for the neck and Thornbucker Plus 53mm for the bridge. I don't get into the corksniffery boutique pickups because they are pretty pricey and for no particular reason, but after my experience with Kinman I'd put his pickups high on any list. Leads will also benefit from the balanced mid-range. Talk with your fellow tone freaks on the web's liveliest (and friendliest!) You are using an out of date browser. These pickups are a fantastic choice for blues, traditional rock, and even some overdriven jazz in the vein of Kurt Rosenwinkel or John Scofield. Fine pickups but not the vintage sound I like. 20 weeks to a higher level of proficiency: Howard Roberts Super Chops one more time. You must log in or register to reply here. Add to cart. Starting from Scratch (again) with One Archtop, A chronological approach for learning Jazz. The Lollars sounded and felt a lot more musical, more dynamic. Guitar "feel". Blindfold Test - Match the guitar to the audio! He must be because they are the best pickups by a fair bit and I have tried a {censored}load. Fralin, Lollar, WCR, etc. Put a Seymour Duncan up for $60 including shipping and you'll get offers all day long for $45 and $50. It offers a beautiful clean tone with incredible versatility. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. I've had guitars with both Imperials and Thornbuckers. What I do is giving names to setting for a song that requires effects. hey very cool story !! Great chime, quack, and can bring forth the Hendrix and SRV when given the love. Or are you a bebop player like Wes Montgomery? Example: I put a load of pickups on eBay over the last year and almost nothing sold unless it was about 50% of retail including shipping. Blindfold Test - Match the guitar to the audio! tone forum. Required fields are marked *. but is hardly "boutique" is the Seymour Duncan SPB-1. Both are nice and clear, no mud, I'd describe them as "juicy". I myself can not tell you why because i'm not a technical person i judge with my ears but there is no doubt that the hand wound pups just flat out sound better.. In a Squier, I wouldn't mess around with installing $200-300 pickups. i imagine that on some later cutaway examples, but don't know if i've seen it much on pre 50s examples. I put a 36th PAF in the neck and a Norton in the bridge. Like rosewood or ebony behind the headstock? By putting two single coil pickups in series and inverting the poles, the noise was canceled, the humbucker was born, and guitar players rejoiced. I still don't understand it. The clarity is great in the various wiring available with 4 wire buckers, and the normal series setting is very fat sounding, yet even then retains detail to satisfy my ear that normally prefers single coils. 476. I love that magnet as a neck humbucker (bridge as well!). Klein Epic 59; Flying-Mojo The Duck Pre-CBS; Thanks Ekam Sat Tags: None Rex_Rocker Ultimate Tone Slacker Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2834 #2 I'll just have to order a set, and let my ears be the judge! They were both phenomenal. I've had both pickups in the same guitar and much preferred the Lollars. I have four amps: '65 DRRI, '65 PRRI, Blues Jr. NOS, Polytone MiniBrute III (early 80s).The DRRI has a Cannabis Rex, a Jan GE 5751 in V2, and I had the bright cap removed. I have Lollar Blackfaces in my strat. I hope this is not out of order but I recently put a WCR Cherrybucker in the bridge of my old PRS and I can't believe how great it sounds. The lower output is clearer and squishy and is great with cleans and low to mid gain. Recommended option. So much so that Slash uses a variation of this pickup, the APH-2 Slash. Leave a comment on which you prefer and SUBSCRIBE if you like this type of thing. 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